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WHITNEY PRUITT: Welcome. On behalf of the Mayo Clinic School of Continuous Professional Development, I'd like to welcome you to the Mayo Clinic Monoclonal Antibodies and Other Novel therapeutics in COVID-19 Treatment webinar series I'm Whitney Pruitt, your host for today's webinar, on Updates on Recently Authorized Therapies for COVID-19. This webinar is accredited by the AMA for 1.5 credits. Here are the disclosures for this activity. And we'd like to thank Eli Lilly and Company for their support of this educational activity.
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We'd like to introduce you to our panel moderator for today, Dr. Amit Ghosh. Dr. Ghosh is a consultant and professor of medicine within the Division of General Internal Medicine at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. And with that, I'd like to hand it over to Dr. Ghosh.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Thank you, Whitney. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen all over the world. This is an important topic we are going to discuss today where the world is challenged with COVID like we have never seen. Some of the countries are going through the worst period at the present moment. And our entire support is with them. Joining us today is a panel of highly distinguished speakers who have been with the COVID situation and been dealing with them right from day one.
I'll be introducing five members who have played an absolutely fantastic role in our understanding, our care delivery, and the knowledge that we have in the Mayo Clinic. Our first speaker is going to be Raymund. Dr. Raymund Razonable is vice chair Division of General Internal Medicine and also program director of General Medicine of Infectious Disease.
Second speaker is going to be Dr. Ravindra Ganesh, who is an assistant professor of medicine at the Division of General Internal Medicine. And he actually led the COVID frontline care team, which was the main phase of how we managed the outpatient care of COVID. The next presenter is Professor Larry Lutwick, Stanford trained infectious disease specialist whom we were fortunate to recruit. And he works for the Mayo Clinic Health System in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. He's a professor of medicine and a specialist in infectious disease.
Next slide. And then is Miss Lori Arndt. She's also worked in the infectious disease. She has been instrumental in managing a lot of outpatient logistics and delivery of these novel therapies, which we are going to talk, at the Mayo Clinic Health System at Eau Claire, Wisconsin.
Next slide. And finally, we have Mr. Richard Arndt, who's assistant professor of pharmacy. He's the senior manager for pharmacy clinical services in Mayo Clinic Health System Eau Claire. All these speakers are extremely adept at management and delivery of this complex situation that we are facing and which requires all these therapy. I will now hand over the presentation to Dr. Raymund Razonable.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Dr. Ghosh. And welcome to everybody. The learning objectives of this webinar is to explain the effect of neutralizing monoclonal antibodies on SARS-CoV-2, explain how monoclonal antibodies fit in the paradigm of outpatient therapy for COVID-19. We will explain the contraindications to monoclonal antibody therapies and how to manage reactions and complications related to treatment.
We will also address logistical requirements for the administration of monoclonal antibody therapies, identify individuals at higher risk of clinical disease progression and may benefit from early treatment with monoclonal antibody treatment therapies. We will also delve and evaluate the impact of racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic disparities in disease severity and how the access optimal therapy for mild to moderate COVID, detail the logistical requirements from the perspectives of supplies, personnel, training, nurse-initiated protocols, and processes for the administration of monoclonal antibodies.
And finally, logistical requirements for healthcare administrators who may be joining us in this webinar, the needs for infrastructure, facilities management, personnel training and deployment, as well as safety protocols, because we all know this is a highly infectious pathogen. And we have to have safety protocols in place, so that we prevent transmission to other patients as well as to our personnel and staff.
I'd like to start off by presenting a typical case of patients that we see in our clinic and in our system. So a 76-year-old man, diabetic, hypertensive, with cardiovascular disease, also has a smoking history and currently has COPD, some renal dysfunction, and has a BMI of 36.
He comes in and basically calls the provider, because he's been having fevers, chills, muscle aches, headache, sore throat, and dry cough for the past two days. There is no shortness of breath. He reports an exposure history, because he attended a community party about a week ago. And he has been tested at a community testing center, found positive for SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid by PCR.
So this brings us to this schematic diagram of the natural history of COVID-19 in patients. There is an approximately about a two week incubation period from the time of exposure. But the vast majority really becomes symptomatic if they develop disease within five to seven days. During this pre-symptomatic phase, the patients are already having viral replication in the respiratory system and are considered infectious.
While the vast majority, roughly maybe about 50% to 60%, may remain asymptomatic, there is a proportion of patients who will go on to develop symptoms just like the patient that was presented. And of those that develop symptoms, the vast majority, roughly about 80% of them, will have mild to moderate disease, fever, muscle aches, cough, sore throat. And then they improve.
But then roughly about 20% of those who have symptoms will go on to develop severe disease as manifested by dyspnea, respiratory distress, requiring admission to the hospital. And then, a proportion of that will require intensive care unit care because of progression to severe and critical illness. This is the timeline. And we will use this as basically a framework for our discussion for the next hour in terms of what treatments may be given or appropriate at various stages of the COVID illness.
So what are the factors associated with severe disease? Who are more likely to develop an illness that requires hospitalization and some going to intensive care? And this is data that is well known and well established during the past year of the pandemic. Older populations, age over 65, those with higher body mass index of 35 or higher, those with cardiovascular disease are at increased risk for severe illness.
Chronic kidney disease increases the risk of severe illness, as well as diabetes, hypertension, chronic lung disease. And a compromised immune system, whether this is from the use of immunosuppressive therapy or an underlying immunodeficiency, increases the risk for severe illness. So keep in mind this is the higher risk group.
And if you go back to our case, it basically fits almost every criteria with the exception of the last one, because he is 76. He has a body mass index of 36, cardiovascular disease, chronic kidney disease, diabetes, hypertension, as well as COPD. I'd like to ask, then, Dr. Ganesh, Ravi, if you are presented with a patient like this, what would you recommend for this patient?
RAVINDRA GANESH: Thank you, Raymund. So for patients like this who are in the early stage of illness, the therapy that's approved for this is monoclonal antibody therapies. Specifically, these are neutralizing anti-spike monoclonal antibodies. And they are proven to prevent the clinical progression of disease.
So what happens to the coronavirus is it has all these little proteins on the surface called spike proteins. And these are the proteins that allow this virus to bind to the cell. And as you can see, it internalizes, and then it releases its genetic material, which is shown here is that squiggly spaghetti line in the bottom right. This allows for replication and infection. The target of the monoclonal antibodies is this little spike protein on the outside.
And the monoclonal antibodies, which are shown in blue, attach to these green spike proteins. And they prevent the virus from binding to the cell membrane. And therefore, it can't infect the cell or replicate. Additionally, virus particles that have these monoclonal antibodies all over their surface are more attractive targets for the immune system to chew right up. We have some animal studies that show success in decreasing viral load and increasing resolution of symptoms, both in a macaque model and a mouse model.
In light of the data that Lori Arndt is going to present in a few minutes, the FDA released EUAs for three separate monoclonal antibodies for COVID-19. The criteria of all of the EUAs, or emergency use authorizations, were mild to moderate COVID-19. Patients had to be within 10 days of symptom onset. And they had to be at high risk of progressing to severe COVID-19 and/or needing hospitalization.
The first antibody to receive monoclonal antibody EUA was bamlanivimab. And that was issued on November 9, 2020. And unfortunately, this got revoked on April 16, 2021 due to emerging resistance patterns of variants. Casirivimab and imdevimab, which is the Regeneron product, got on EUA on November 21, 2020. And bamlanivimab in combination with etesevimab released by Lilly got an EUA on February 9, 2021, which is still active. So both combo forms are still active. Let's turn over to Lori Arndt to discuss the data behind these trials.
LORI ARNDT: Thank you, Ravindra. So the bamlanivimab, the BLAZE-1 trial, which was conducted by Eli Lilly and Company, was a randomized double blind placebo-controlled trial, which included 452 patients. These patients were randomized to receive either 700, 2,800, or 7,000 milligrams of bamlanivimab monotherapy versus placebo. The patients had to test positive for SARS-CoV-2 within three days and report at least one or more mild to moderate COVID-19 symptoms.
In those patients, the median age was 45, the majority of which were female and Caucasian. 44% of those patients were considered the high risk population, with 76% reporting mild symptoms. The average duration of symptoms was five days. Median viral load, which was reported in a threshold cycle of 24. The primary outcome in this study was the change from baseline in the SARS-CoV-2 viral load at day 11.
And the study found that in phase two, only patients who received the 2,800 milligram dose of bamlanivimab had a greater decrease in day 11 viral load as compared to placebo. In the secondary endpoints, they also looked at hospitalization or emergency room visits. And at day 29, those percentage of patients who were hospitalized with COVID-19 was 1.6% in the bamlanivimab group versus 6.3% in the placebo group.
In the phase three portion of the study, it compared bamlanivimab to etesevimab in high risk patients. Again, the same criteria was met, mild to moderate COVID-19 symptoms within three days of testing positive. And those patients who were included were at least 12 years in age and older with at least one risk factor for severe disease. The study outcome noted that it was able to reduce the risk of hospitalization by 70%. And these results are consistent with those seen in other data sets in other studies. In addition, it did show that the viral load reduction was also greatest in the combination therapy of bamlanivimab and etesevimab.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Lori. I'd like to ask Richard to give us details of the other cocktail of casirivimab and imdevimab.
RICHARD ARNDT: Thank you, Raymund and Lori. So I'm going to be focusing on the casirivimab/imdevimab, which was from the Regeneron COV2 trial. So this is an ongoing double-blind phase I through II placebo-controlled trial involving non-hospitalized patients with COVID-19. Patients were randomized in a 1 to 1 to 1 ratio to either receive placebo, the 2.4 gram, or the 8 gram of the casirivimab/imdevimab combination product. Patients had to have a confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection with a positive test result no more than 72 hours before randomization and as well as symptoms onset no more than seven days before randomization.
So the interim analysis described here involved the first 275 patients. And this was the initial analysis during the phase I to II portion of the trial. The median age of the patients in these trials was 44 years with 49% of those being male and 81% being Caucasian. At baseline, 123 patients, which is about 45%, were serum antibody positive while 113 patients, that being 41%, were serum antibody negative. And 39 patients, so 14%, had unknown antibody status.
So looking at the demographic risk factors at baseline, 42% were obese and 64% of these patients presented with at least one risk factor as described previously. The median number of days of reported COVID-19 related symptoms before randomization was around three days.
So the casirivimab/imdevimab antibody cocktail reduced viral load as illustrated in the graphic shown on your right. The greatest effect was seen in participants whose immune response had not been initiated yet or who had a very high viral load at baseline. Both the 2.4 gram and the 8 gram dose of casirivimab/imdevimab was associated with very few low grade adverse effects. And this was similar to placebo. The study also illustrated that the casirivimab/imdevimab treated patients at 2.8% had fewer COVID-19 related medical visits as compared to the placebo group at a percentage of 6.5%.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Lori and Richard, to summarize the available data to date that has been published. We have data on bamlanivimab monotherapy. We have data on bamlanivimab combined with etesevimab, and data on casirivimab combined with imdevimab. And as you can see, it is consistent across the clinical trials. The trials did show as a primary endpoint decline in viral load.
But as clinicians, we wanted to see clinical endpoints data. And the available data to date so far has been based on the small number of patients enrolled in these studies. But as you could see, in the secondary endpoint towards the bottom of the slides, there appears to be a signal of reduced hospitalization in patients who received these monoclonal antibodies compared to those who did not receive the antibodies or who had received placebo. And the adverse effects profile appears to be mild and consistent across the three trials.
Just like what Dr. Ganesh had earlier mentioned, the emergency authorizations of bamlanivimab has been revoked just because of increased predominance of a variance in the community. And we will discuss that towards the later part of this session. With this in mind, I'd like to turn over to Dr. Lutwick. Larry, can you tell us who is eligible? Is this somebody for everybody, or is this something that is only reserved for a certain group of patients?
LARRY LUTWICK: All right. Thanks, Ray. In review, the patients that are at high risk that are eligible for the monoclonal antibody treatment include anyone over the age of 65 years, people who are 55 years old and older with any of the following risk factors in cardiovascular disease, hypertension, and COPD, or any other chronic respiratory disease, anyone over the age of 12 years with any of the following risk factors, BMI equal to or greater than 35, chronic renal disease, diabetes, and immunosuppressive disease, or condition, and those receiving immunosuppressive therapy for other diseases.
And finally, individuals between the age of 12 and 17 years with BMI is greater than or equal to the 85th percentile, individuals with sickle cell disease, individuals with congenital or acquired heart disease, those with neurodevelopmental disorders, medical related technological dependence such as patients with tracheostomies, gastrostomies, or on positive pressure ventilation, and finally, those individuals with asthma, bronchospasm, or any reactive airway or chronic respiratory disease.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Larry. I'd like to move on to look and discuss some of the logistics in setting up infusion therapy centers. So we have the products given to us through emergency authorizations. The next hurdle in the implementation of this in the real world is that we have the facilities to infuse. So what we've done as an institution is basically develop a standalone dedicated COVID-19 infusion therapy centers across our sites.
For those who are not familiar with our locations, we are located in Minnesota, states of Wisconsin, Arizona, as well as Florida. And I emphasize dedicated, because these are outpatient therapy infusion centers that are only for COVID, because we don't want to mix patients that are infected with COVID as well as others who are receiving therapy for other conditions, for example. And we established about nine infusion facilities across our sites. And we started the program way back in November of 2020.
And it's really important to basically respect the virus and protect our patients. In doing this, we have to partner with your infection prevention and control personnel, just to make sure that the procedures and the processes that you are establishing and infusing these antibodies in these facilities is within the standards to prevent spread of the virus to other patients in your center as well as to your health care personnel. So they are an integral component in administration.
The other aspect is the personnel and the team. And I'd like to turn it over to Dr. Ganesh. Ravi, if you could describe how you basically developed a multidisciplinary team to facilitate the infusion of these therapies?
RAVINDRA GANESH: Thank you. So when we created the monoclonal antibody treatment team, which had a convenient acronym of MATRx, which we love, we tried to really get everybody on board that we thought we might need, and then some. So we got clinicians together from the various departments, pulled the ID specialists, and the internal medicine and family medicine docs who will be the docs on the ground.
We got docs together who had experience with managing COVID patients, both adult and pediatrics. We got a nursing experience from the infusion therapy center. And we got nurses and pharmacists on board. We also got all the people who actually make things happen, the desk operation staff, the administrators, informatics, and EHR specialists. And then we got the people on the ground, compliance, facilities, engineering, and the folks that make sure everything we do is appropriate. So we got legal and ethics involved as well.
So with a really huge team. And I have to commend this team, because we met pretty much daily for a long time to get everything up and running. Here is a snap of one of our morning meetings. These are the physicians, administrators, support staff from all across the entire Midwest. You may recognize the bottom right and second from bottom left individuals. They're both presenting with us.
And we initially had a big challenge around patient education and consenting. And when we started calling people initially, our rejection rate was north of 70%. And we asked people. They weren't really aware of the therapy. They had hesitancy, because it was brand new. And they weren't quite sure what an EUA meant. And they were all in that sweet part of the curve where they had minimal symptoms. And a lot of people were, well, I don't feel bad right now. I don't need therapy.
And we really wanted to fix that uptake. So we created an educational video. And that's not the most flattering picture of me. Thankfully, Darcy, one of our nurses did this with me. And it was much more engaging. And we've shared this video with our partners in the state level to see if we can increase uptake. By adding the video, we actually got our acceptance rate upwards. So now, we're around 60% to 70% of people who hear about the product are willing to accept it.
The other issue that we had that we had to start with rapidly was how do we provide this treatment which is potentially life saving to the wide swath of patients in or out of areas? So we had to think about people with health disparities, the underserved populations. And folks who are exceptionally high risk are not mobile in the long term care facilities. So we partnered with our community organizations. And we tried our best to get this going.
One of our major achievements, in my mind, what I'm most proud of, is getting to the skilled nursing facilities, because if these facilities do have an outbreak, it can spread like wildfire. Reported mortality is over 50%. And we put together a mobile team, and we worked closely with our local nursing facilities to identify patients at high risk and sent our mobile infusion team out to the facility.
And in doing so, we were able to infuse anywhere from two to 20 patients in a facility at one time. And I think we greatly reduced the spread of illness. Here is a picture of our Mayo infusion van along with two of our nurses speaking to a resident of a nursing facility, with her permission, of course. And this was one of the best things we did.
LORI ARNDT: Thank you, Ravi. So as both Raymund and Ravi have pointed out, we have a therapy. We have the infusion centers. We know which patients are at high risk. Now, it's actually identifying those patients. And so here at Mayo Clinic and our health systems, those patients who tested at our locations were automatically screened for eligibility to receive the monoclonal antibody therapy based on a positive SARS-CoV-2 test.
Patients who were non-Mayo Clinic patients or those who had tested outside of Mayo Clinic and the health system could also be eligible. And they were reviewed by our COVID frontline care team through an e-consultation. And those referrals were reviewed. And any pertinent information was added to the electronic medical record, including a copy of their positive test result.
Patients were determined for their clinical eligibility and drug allocation based on something called a monoclonal antibody screening score. This was essentially a score that was developed based on internal outcomes data and eligibility criteria set forth in the FDA emergency use authorization as well as the state guidance. This was a weighted score.
And as you can see here, you see in this diagram previously those patients were given a weighted number based on specific criteria. And so those patients who were 55 with, let's say, hypertension would have a lower score of one, versus those individuals who may be 65 and older with an immunosuppressive disease or chronic kidney disease would have a much higher score with at least three.
And this was certainly important, because we knew that being able to risk stratify was important, as these patients with higher rates of hospitalization had higher rates of hospitalization based on their risk factors. And so it was essential, really, to be able to weight their comorbidity score based on this MASS score.
And finally, we would have to manually review these patients for their eligibility. They were screened to ensure that they reside within their respective regions. We would verify their comorbidities by manually reviewing their electronic medical record. We would verify the eligibility based on onset of symptoms, severity of illness, and the date of testing.
And finally, ones that would be done, nurses would contact patients for education of monoclonal antibodies and obtain consent for infusion. And the consenting patients would be scheduled as soon as possible, typically it was same day or within 24 hours. And those patients who were undecided or non-consenting patients were provided 48 hours of time to reconsider their decision.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: I would like to turn, take it over, and basically discuss some of the factors we have learned since the start of the program. We have observed that there is a group of patients that are more likely to accept the offer. And there are those that are more likely to decline therapy. And as you can see here, patients are more likely to accept our offer for monoclonal antibodies if they are non-Hispanic white Caucasian, if they have English as their primary language, if they have a stronger social support system as indicated by having a spouse, or a life partner, or being a member of a religious organization or affiliation.
On the contrary, patients who are considered underrepresented are more likely to decline the offer. There are potentially multiple reasons behind that. And as a result, there should be bigger efforts to reach out to those communities, particularly if they are considered high risk. And another factor that basically was associated with the decision to accept monoclonal antibody therapy is a so-called monoclonal antibody screening score.
The higher the score a patient has, the more likely that they will accept the offer for treatment, potentially because they are aware of their higher risk conditions and their higher propensity to develop severe disease and get hospitalized. With our program, we have a time to infusion of about 2.8 days from the time of testing, with the vast majority patients will get their infusion during the first three days after they have been tested positive for COVID-19. Let's turn it over to Larry. Larry, yeah?
LARRY LUTWICK: So in summary, the milestones related to the MATRx program. November 9 was the day that the MATRx program at Mayo was organized and started. 10 days later, the first monoclonal antibody infusion was given. By the end of 2020-- it's about six weeks-- the program had infused 1,700 patients.
Into the first week of January of 2021, the milestone of 2,000 patients was reached. And by the middle of January, almost 3,000 patients were infused. And by the 22 of April, an estimated 5,200 patients were infused. This slide gives you an idea of the timeline of infusions in each of the states that we have our MATRx system running. And the top saw the line being the total number of infusions given over the first 10 weeks of the program.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Larry. I'd like to ask Richard to comment. One of the questions that patients have as well as providers ask us is, how safe is monoclonal antibody therapy? And what have we been observing in our program in terms of adverse reactions? And how do we manage them?
RICHARD ARNDT: Well, thank you, Raymund. Yes, that is a question that pops up pretty frequently. And we thankfully have had a lot of experience around these infusions with, like Dr. Lutwick had mentioned, 5,200 patients have been infused to date. So when we look at the number of adverse events, we see that in about 19 patients, so only about 1% of our patients.
Some of the most common ones are, similar to infusion reactions, are fevers and chills, so six patients there. Some experienced some nausea and vomiting. Those were only five patients. Lightheadedness was seen in about three. And then in the following, rash, chest pain, confusion, and weakness were seen in two each. And then diarrhea, headache, cough, facial swelling, one each in those respective categories.
We are really happy to have seen that no one had an infusion anaphylactic reaction. And really, all adverse events were mild and did not require hospitalization. And this was across the board with our infusions that were over one hour, as well as the infusions that we had cut down when the EUA changed to the shorter infusion times.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Richard. Just to highlight, while the adverse reactions are mild and the vast majority are basically systemic symptoms, so fevers and chills, there's the potential for anaphylaxis. We have not observed that. But if you have an infusion center, just make sure that you have the capacity to address those in case it happens.
The other big question is clinical outcomes. If you recall back several slides ago when we were looking at the randomized controlled trials, there is a signal. But the numbers of patients in those clinical trials are not large enough to develop or to perform statistical analysis. In the real world, what are we seeing? And I'd like to turn over to Dr. Ganesh. Rav, If you could describe the outcomes of the Mayo Clinic program on the use of these monoclonal antibodies.
RAVINDRA GANESH: Yeah. So when we start to analyze our data-- and we did this initially back when we had our first 1,600 bamlanivimab patients. Currently we have over 5,000 patients we have infused. So the first analysis that we did was looking at bamlanivimab patients who are in the blue here.
And we compared them to a 1 to 5 control match, which was matched on age, comorbidities, gender, everything that would make them as close to these patients that we treated as possible. And we can see here that the bamlanivimab treated group has less hospitalization, especially earlier in the disease, in the first 20, 25 days. And this is unpublished data, which we're trying to get out there.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Sounds good. Ravi, if I may ask, can you comment on the orange line, which appears to also show not much of hospitalization compared to the reported 10% to 15% from randomized controlled trials?
RAVINDRA GANESH: Yes. So looking at the orange line, our hospitalization rate in our system for patients who were not treated was about 4%. And this is as Raymund said, drastically less, 10% to 15% deaths reported. And that may be a factor of our system, because we did reach out to people early.
And we did monitor them with these specialized telehealth teams to try and identify who was going south and getting them into the hospital early. And we proposed that early treatment and very dedicated inpatient COVID treatment team who went through and tried to get people therapies as early as possible may have contributed to better outcomes in our baseline group.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Sounds good. Thank you. And despite the low baseline hospitalization rate for the cohort or propensity-matched untreated cohort, there was still significant decline based on this graph of the association between monoclonal antibody, in this case bamlanivimab monotherapy, and, of course, hospitalization. Do you mind to comment about severity of illness as well as maybe admissions to the intensive care unit and mortality, Dr. Ganesh?
RAVINDRA GANESH: Yeah. So when we analyzed that data, we also found that people who were admitted were less likely to get admitted to the ICU or to require mechanical ventilation when compared to people who were not treated. And in our initial analysis of that 1,600 patients, only one had died at 28 days compared to seven in the untreated group. So our initial takeaway from this study was that people who are treated early have lower admission rates and if they do get admitted are less likely to progress to severe disease and death, by virtue of treatment with bamlanivimab.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Sounds good. And of course, the next question now is, there's three products now, two products out there. During the time of this study, there were bamlanivimab monotherapy, and there's the other one casirivimab/imdevimab cocktail. Is there outcomes difference between the two?
RAVINDRA GANESH: And this is what this slide is. So we start to analyze the different outcomes between our patients treated with bamlanivimab monotherapy and the casirivimab/imdevimab cocktail. The curves do separate a little here. It does not reach statistical significance. And this is an adjusted curve that looks at comorbidities. So both groups of patients treated here are equally sick and equally at risk of being admitted.
And it does seem that casirivimab may do a little better, but it doesn't reach significance. And we need bigger numbers to confirm. This data may change as we continue to get variants with emerging resistance patterns. And we will have to keep updating this as we go. As of right now, we have no data to recommend one product over another.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: OK. And just to emphasize, this comparison here is a comparison of casirivimab/imdevimab combo and the bamlanivimab monotherapy, whose emergency authorizations has just been revoked because of the emergence of a variant. This did not transmit well.
RAVINDRA GANESH: It did not come out as well as we would have hoped. So what we're looking at here was hospitalization rates for the people who had accepted versus those who had declined monoclonal antibody therapy. And we will fix this slide and send it out with the CMU materials.
But what we found is that as the [INAUDIBLE] advanced, one, people were being admitted to the hospital at a higher rate, but two, the monoclonal antibodies did show a decrease across all [INAUDIBLE] scores for hospital admission, especially when compared head to head. And this difference did get larger as we increased in monoclonal antibody severity score, which is our comorbidity predictor.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Ravi. Just to highlight and summarize what is supposed to be in this slide, it shows basically the higher the comorbidity, the higher is the risk for hospitalization. But that is reduced with the use of monoclonal antibody treatment.
RAVINDRA GANESH: And this is a graph just showing the relationship between patients' monoclonal antibody severity score and their likelihood of admission. And the traditional risk factors get highlighted here with older age, male gender, chronic kidney disease, chronic respiratory disease, cardiovascular disease, immunosuppression.
Hypertension does not seem to be an independent risk factor. But when you add it to other diseases, it does seem to really ramp that rate of admission up. And when you score them all together, it turns out that as you accumulate system dysfunction, your likelihood of being admitted increases. So one morbidity is not nearly as bad as two comorbidities.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Sounds good. And the graph on the right is really something that is really informative, if I may say. The patients that are going to be admitted, there's about 4% of them at least in this cohort of 3,600, almost 3,600 patients, about 4% still ended up getting admitted despite monoclonal antibody infusion. And the significant risk factor for that is the number of medical comorbidities just like shown in the purple bar on this graph.
But the key here, though, is even if they get admitted, their severity of illness appears to be not as bad. Just like what Dr. Ganesh had said, there's really low risk of mortality in these patients. OK. All right. Richard, can you tell us something about variants? This is something that's spreading in the community. How does monoclonal antibodies impact the variants in the community?
RICHARD ARNDT: Thank you. Raymund, yes, this is definitely I think one of the hot topics currently is how do we manage these variants that are circulating around the global community? And this table really illustrates some of the identified variants and the reduction in susceptibility that has come from the CDC data, as well as other organizations to these variants.
As you can see on the right hand side, the casirivimab/imdevimab product is the one that has been shown to be susceptible to the various variants from the UK, the South Africa one, California, New York, and Brazil. The bamlanivimab and etesevimab product as well as the straight bamlanivimab has no shown reduced susceptibility to the UK variant.
However, the bamlanivimab and etesevimab also shows just a slight reduction in susceptibility to the California virus. What is not detected on here or shown on this table here are the two other variants that have recently popped up. And that was the one down in Texas, the BV-1 variant, as well as the variant from India, which is the B.1.617 variant. So we do not have susceptibility information on those two variants currently that are circulating.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Richard. And just to emphasize, these are basically testing done on pseudoviruses. It's on the vesicular stomatitis virus pseudovirus experiment. So these are experimental data. And we will need to know clinical outcomes as we learn more about this. But because of this, this is the reason why bam monotherapy as a EUA by itself has been revoked.
So going back to our case, so you remember we presented a 76-year-old man, diabetic, hypertensive, with cardiovascular disease, COPD, CKD, and a BMI of 36. Based on the data that we have, this patient, despite monoclonal antibody therapy, may still get hospitalized. What if he gets hospitalized? How is the management of this patient? I'll turn it over to Lori.
This is a CT scan of this patient who subsequently developed severe COVID pneumonia. And going back to the timeline of infection has been basically divided into different phases. We saw this patient when he presented with during the early part, where it's predominantly still viral response with consitutional symptoms, cough, sore throat, and headache. Got monoclonal antibody therapy. He's high risk, but he seems to have progressed to develop shortness of breath. What is the treatment for this case? Lori?
LORI ARNDT: Thank you, Raymund. Yeah. So transitioning and looking at patients who are now seeking hospital admission or emergency room presentation, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease funded the adaptive COVID-19 treatment trial, or the ACTT-1 trial. This was a double blind, randomized, placebo controlled trial of hospitalized patients or hospitalized adults with COVID-19 infection with evidence of lower respiratory tract infection.
The primary outcome in this study was time to recovery. And remdesivir did show that it hastened time to clinical recovery by four to five days. However, based on the Kaplan-Meier estimates, there was no mortality benefit. Additionally, it did show that there was a benefit of remdesivir, most apparent in those who were on low flow oxygen, so not in those on room air, or high flow, or on non-invasive mechanical ventilation.
Hence, based on these and other observed findings that led to the guidelines from the NIH as well as the IDSA. So the NIH has stated that patients requiring supplemental oxygen, or invasive mechanical ventilation, or ECMO receive remdesivir plus dexamethasone. The IDSA came to the conclusion that those patients with severe COVID-19 on supplemental oxygen but not on invasive mechanical ventilation or ECMO, they recommended treatment with five days of remdesivir. And they recommended against remdesivir for those patients who were on room air that is greater than 94%.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: And the immunomodulator therapies is all something that has gained attention during the past year of the pandemic. And if I could ask Dr. Lutwick, Larry, if you could just describe some of the findings on the use of dexamethasone and then later on on tocilizumab.
LARRY LUTWICK: Thanks, Ray. Clearly, the indirect antiviral effects remdesivir has are somewhat useful. But as the disease goes on, it appears to be a hyperactive immune response. It seems relevant in causing substantial morbidity and mortality. And one of the agents that was found early on in the-- specially reported in the recovery collaborative study in The New England Journal last year was dexamethasone.
And this slide shows you graphically broke down with regards to the kind of patients what kind of effect dexamethasone had. In the upper left showing all participants, there was a decrease in mortality for dexamethasone versus usual care. In the lower left in oxygen only, in other words, people that were receiving oxygen and not mechanical ventilation, there was also some effect of dexamethasone in decreasing mortality.
But the most prominent effect, which is in the upper right, is in those patients that required invasive mechanical ventilation, where the decrease in mortality was much more prominent with dexamethasone versus invasive mechanical ventilation. And in the lower right, in those individuals who did not receive oxygen, there was no positive effects of dexamethasone in overall mortality.
The next slide shows the same data in a somewhat graphic form with regards to rate ratio, demonstrating clearly that dexamethasone was most prominently useful in those individuals who required mechanical ventilation, but was also useful in those people getting supplemental oxygen, and not useful at all, in fact, some slightly detrimental, in those individuals who are not requiring oxygen. And when you combined them all together, there was a somewhat-- there was a useful effect in decreasing mortality of dexamethasone versus usual care. And that was from the same-- the data from the same study.
This slide is the current NIH COVID-19 treatment guidelines received for treatment. And in those individuals who are hospitalized and requiring supplemental oxygen, NIH currently recommends using remdesivir. Especially in those requiring minimal supplemental oxygen, the combination of dexamethasone and remdesivir. Remember, you need to follow liver function tests in people on remdesivir. Viral infection itself can cause elevated aminotransferases. But remdesivir can increase the aminotransferases, sometimes limiting its usefulness in giving the five days. And dexamethasone alone when remdesivir can't be used or is not available.
In those individuals who were hospitalized and requiring high flow oxygen or non-invasive ventilation, dex or dex and remdesivir are recommended. And for those who are recently hospitalized or deteriorating with evidence of systemic inflammation with regard to the inflammatory markers CRP and the like, NIH currently recommends using tocilizumab to one of the options above. And for those who are hospitalized and on ventilation, dexamethasone. In those who are recently admitted, dex and toci.
Next slide. Now finally, tocilizumab is a humanized monoclonal antibody which is directed against anti-interleukin-6 receptor and when added to dexamethasone is found to improve survival among the group that are exhibiting rapid respiratory decompensation due to COVID-19. These two lines here are basically the same two lines that were on the side before, saying those who are rapidly deteriorating or recently requiring invasive mechanical ventilation that the anti-IL-6 receptor monoclonal should be added to dexamethasone.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much, Larry. Tocilizumab has had, I guess, a course during the pandemic. It was really very popular early on and then it lost its, I guess, its following once we had the randomized controlled trials sometime performed middle of last year. And now, it's gaining back because of emerging data that it may add benefit to dexamethasone, just like what Larry had mentioned. And then, the other immunomodulator that is also given authorization is baricitinib. Richard, can you comment on this?
RICHARD ARNDT: Thank you, Raymund. Yep. So baricitinib received its FDA EUA approval based on the ACTT-2 trial, which was a phase III adaptive randomized double blind trial, which compared the regimen of remdesivir alone versus a regimen of remdesivir with baricitinib in hospitalized patients. And the results from there showed a reduced median time to recovery of seven days versus eight days. There was a 30% higher odds of improvement in clinical status at day 15. And the incidence of progression to death or invasive ventilation was 31% lower in that group, as was the 28 day mortality rate of 5.1% versus 7.8%.
Now, when we look at the NIH COVID-19 treatment guideline panel, there is insufficient data, really, to recommend either for or against the use of baricitinib in combination with remdesivir for the treatment of our COVID-19 patients who are hospitalized, especially when corticosteroids can be utilized in its place.
This is similar recommendation by the IDSA as well, stating that among hospitalized patients with severe COVID-19 who cannot receive steroids because of a contraindication, the IDSA guideline panel really suggests the use of baricitinib with remdesivir rather than remdesivir alone in those patients. So really, the recommendations is to use the corticosteroids first. And if there's contraindications to those, to incorporate the baricitinib into the treatment with remdesivir.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Thank you so much. And of course, the big question is, now there's a push towards having the vaccines to almost everybody that's eligible depending, of course, on the supply of the vaccination. One of the common questions that come to mind as well as being asked of the MATRx team is, what is the relation between monoclonal antibody infusions and vaccines? And Dr. Ganesh, if you could give us answers to two specific questions. Can I get vaccinated after monoclonal? And if I get monoclonal and I develop COVID, am I still eligible? Or if I get vaccinated and I develop COVID, am I eligible for monoclonal antibody therapy?
RAVINDRA GANESH: All right. Thanks, Raymund. So this is a hot topic as shown by the fact that four or more of the questions in the Q&A refer to vaccines. The first question-- can somebody get vaccinated after treatment with anti-spike monoclonal antibodies? The answer is yes.
And right now, we have a 90 day cutoff from after receiving the monoclonal antibody to when people can receive their vaccination [INAUDIBLE]. And that's been determined by the American College of Immunization Physicians. And the thought is that people will have passive immunity with the anti-spike monoclonal antibodies during this period of 90 days. And if you try to immunize them before that, you may not get a robust enough immune response.
The second question is, what if I am vaccinated and I do wind up with COVID symptoms? Well, if you have COVID and symptoms after being vaccinated, that would mean are having vaccine fear, so to speak. And we know that most people who are in this group would tend to have a milder course of COVID. But in people who are at high risk of being hospitalized, it would be reasonable to go ahead and give them monoclonal antibody.
One of the specific questions asked in the Q&A was, what about people who have been immunized but have immunosuppression? And I think that group was a prime group that if they did have symptoms of COVID, I would go ahead and give them monoclonal antibody even if they were vaccinated.
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Perfect. Thank you so much, Dr. Ganesh. And that's really what's happening also, because as you know, there's emerging data that vaccination may not be as effective in patients who are immunosuppressed, for some reason. And there's the data from the transplant community showing that. So they may not have developed immune response to the vaccination. And if that's the case, and if they develop COVID, then they are definitely eligible for the anti-spike monoclonal antibodies.
So that brings us to the concluding section of this webinar before we take the Q&A section. We presented to you the data on monoclonal antibodies, how it neutralizes the spike protein. We've shown clinical data that came from randomized clinical trial. Also have shared with you the emerging data coming from our real world practice here at the Mayo Clinic.
To emphasize, this treatment is only for mild to moderate COVID. In the outpatient setting for patients who are hospitalized for COVID, that means they have severe or critical illness. Then there's data to suggest that monoclonal antibodies will not work in that situation. There's a high risk group that has been defined, as defined by age over 65, BMI over 35, certain medical comorbidities including chronic kidney, cardiac, lung diseases, diabetes, hypertension, as well as compromised immune system.
The contraindications to therapy includes if they don't belong to the high risk category, then they are not yet eligible for emergency authorization of these products. And just like what I said, if they are hospitalized for COVID, then this treatment is probably not going to be effective. Patients who are on oxygen therapy, because they are hypoxemic, that means that they have severe disease. So this treatment will also not be available for them, because data suggests that it will not work if the patient has progressed to severe illness.
We monitor for infusion reactions and complications. We discussed about the mild nature of these adverse reactions, at least in our experience as well as reported in clinical trials. But there is a potential for anaphylaxis. So you should have a resuscitation cart available to you. We described the process and how we do this at our institution with a proactive approach of notifying and engaging as soon as we know of a positive result.
And there is also a more passive approach wherein patients are being referred to us from other facilities. We all screen them based on the monoclonal allocation screening score to determine eligibility. These are still investigational, which means that patients should be aware that they are not yet FDA approved at least in the US, and this be documented, and the consent be signed. We discussed about how we procure them. We discussed about our infusion center as well as our mobile unit.
And the infrastructures and facilities that are needed and supported by administration, dedicated infusion centers, ethics, and all those things need to be addressed, as well as the heart of the program, which is really the multidisciplinary team that basically made it an effort to reach as many patients that are eligible for monoclonal antibody treatment as well as education. And then of course, this has to be done safely in the context of the fact that this is a highly infectious pathogen. So we have to prevent transmission to our staff as well as to other patients that we care for.
With that, I'd like to end with the other therapies that are available. We discussed about the remdesivir and dexamethasone, as well as indications for the use of the immunomodulators tocilizumab and baricitinib. There are many other therapies out there that are being proposed. Those are not yet either approved or authorized. And we can answer them in the Q&A questions. But since they are not yet authorized for use for COVID, we did not prepare a slide presentation for them. And on behalf of the other speakers, I'd like to thank you for your attention. We will turn it over now to the Q&A. Dr. Ghosh, if you could take it over?
AMIT K. GHOSH: Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Razonable. One question is coming up repeatedly, which you touched. But people would like to know about the role of convalescent plasma. What is the role of convalescent plasma in the new realm of monoclonal antibody use?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Yeah. So I could take that on. Convalescent plasma also has some data behind that. It's also under emergency authorization. But it's only given in a hospitalized patient. We cannot give that in the outpatient setting, for example. So that's one difference. And the other difference is convalescent plasma, it has a combination of multiple antibodies present compared to the monoclonals wherein it's only a specific one antibody in that vial.
So those are the two differences. So I don't know if I was able to answer the question, but that's a difference between the two. Convalescent plasma, hospitalized, but it has to be given early as well. And that's where the data is, as well as the fact that we should have a high titer for the plasma if we use it.
RAVINDRA GANESH: I'd like to just add on to that that we shouldn't think of these as separate products necessarily, because all the monoclonal is not derived from convalescent plasma. They were all identified as convalescent plasma that has been purified.
AMIT K. GHOSH: So one of the questions which have come up-- is the logistics part of the monoclonal? Who can give it? So talk about nursing teams. And what should be the qualification of these nurses? And the second question which came out-- you did show the van going out. Is there any scope for delivering it at home, the monoclonal treatment?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: There are some programs that do that, like, for example, some of the home infusion facilities that maybe that you may partner with. I know some at least in some areas of the country wherein they partnered with the home infusion therapy programs that go out and infuse to patients at home. Yeah. There's that option as well.
AMIT K. GHOSH: One of the questions which is coming up at the top is, do you expect to roll out subcutaneous injection based on Regeneron announcement earlier this month?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: We are dependent on what the FDA will decide. If they're going to give that EUA, emergency authorizations, for that, then that's going to be another option, yes.
AMIT K. GHOSH: I know we did cover it. Richard did mention about it. But there's a repeated question on, do the panelists feel that monoclonal antibody cocktails are likely to work just as well for SARS-CoV-2 variants as with the wild types virus in the pre-hospitalized patients?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: I think Richard did mention that. Do you want to take that on, Richard?
RICHARD ARNDT: Yeah. So yes. The casirivimab/imdevimab is definitely showing some-- is showing the best data with regards to those variants. Looping back onto the Texas one, we don't have the information around the Texas information yet. But some of the other variants have the same genetic markers as BV-1. But like I said, we don't have clarity on that one as well.
The India one has a mutation that has I think 12 mutations. And two of those are similar to the California one, as well as the South African, and the Brazilian one. So potentially, the casirivimab/imdevimab will be able to be effective against that Indian one. But unfortunately, at this point in time, we don't have the data to support that recommendation.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Other question which came out was the cost. We do hear about all the other kinds of therapy. But monoclonal, what's the cost of this therapy? Is it covered by insurance?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: I can take that on. So the drug is free in the US, because it's under emergency authorization. So the federal government has basically bought supplies and drugs that are distributed to facilities that can infuse. So product is free. There is a cost to the administration, of course. And insurance usually pays for that. But that should not be a deterrent for somebody who is uninsured or underinsured, because there is a federal pathway that will cover the cost of those administration fees and could be free for patients who are under or uninsured.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Question of pathophysiology. Do the monoclonal antibodies contain antibodies to the spike protein, or the nucleocapsid protein, or just to the spike protein, or both?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Just to the spike.
AMIT K. GHOSH: A couple of questions came out about the use of ivermectin. What is the role there? I know the studies. It's still used in several countries. Could you mention about what the current stranding is about the use of ivermectin?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Yeah. So there's really no strong data to support or for or against the use of ivermectin. The IDSA and the NIH as well as Mayo discourages the use of that on routine use. If there is a desire to use ivermectin for COVID, it has to be done under the auspices of clinical trials. So I know there is some that are ongoing at this time. But it should not be given routinely.
AMIT K. GHOSH: One question came out about how should you monitor these patients? And should measurement of IL-6 be a gold standard in COVID management? Any ideas on that on how monoclonals would affect IL-6 and whether that should be monitored routinely in mild to moderate or moderate cases or it should be monitored only in hospitalized cases in ICU kind of setting?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: OK. I can take that on as well. So for patients in the outpatient setting, we do not do blood work, just because these are mild to moderate patients. There is no blood work that is required of their care. But if they get admitted to the hospital, usually we get the usual CBC differential count, CRP as a liver function test, creatinine as baseline.
IL-6, yes or no, depending on your availability. The turnaround time for getting IL-6 is also variable depending on the center. There are many labs that do not even perform those testings. So it's yes or no depending on availability. But it should not really be the one guiding the management. A baseline CRP is the easiest measure for inflammation.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Would you comment about dexamethasone studies well known and there are other studies on budesonide and hydrocortisone? How effective are there? Because budesonide can be given as an inhaler. What would your recommendation be? Are the studies still not conclusive?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: It's still not conclusive. There's data that are reassuring out there, but they are not yet part of the standard of care, if I may say that. But it's reassuring. But the data on dexamethasone, just like what Larry had mentioned, it's not for everybody either. It has to be for patients who are already requiring oxygen. If you remember that graph towards the bottom right on that slide, if you give it actually in patients who are not on oxygen or not requiring oxygen, it's worse. It leads to worse outcome.
AMIT K. GHOSH: There's a lot of rush to sort out which medications to give. And that has led to all these combination therapies. Colchicine, somebody else put it, which almost every medicine from vitamins to colchicine to others have been tried out. What would your recommendation be, if you were to give outpatient therapy versus inpatient therapy, evidence based?
For outpatient, what would you say really works? And for inpatient, if you have to take the remdesivir and dexamethasone, versus all the other biologicals which you mentioned, what would be the ones which we know definitely has changed mortality or definitely has shortened the length of stay in the hospitals? Just as a summary [INAUDIBLE].
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Summary. Yeah. So for the outpatient setting, the one that at least has some data are monoclonal antibodies. We are just grasping the impact of this on clinical care. If you recall, most of the data that's published are on small trials. But the outcomes in those trials are basically viral load data, which what does that really mean in real world? What's the impact of that on mortality? What's the impact on that on hospitalization?
We are just learning them as those trials are expanding and as the use of these products are also expanding in the real world with the authorization, Dr. Ganesh described the data of reduced hospitalization for the products that we've been using. There is also a signal of mortality or I should say survival benefit in those patients as well. But those are still, if I may qualify my statement, those are investigational.
They have not yet been FDA approved for use. So you cannot just go to a pharmacy and buy them. It's still under emergency use authorization. For the inpatient setting, what has been shown to really improve survival is dexamethasone, and the old cheap dexamethasone that we've had for decades, and decades, and decades, but only in select patient population. They have to have been requiring oxygen supplementation.
Remdesivir, there's mixed data out there in terms of survival. Trials have not really shown that it improves survival or it reduces mortality. But there's an argument that mortality is just one of the outcomes. Another outcome that you look into is they get better. So Lori had mentioned about the four day difference in time to recovery in patients like this.
So really, mortality from COVID has been reduced or it has improved. Survival has improved over, because we learned how to care for them. So for us to look at a mortality benefit in patients whose mortality rate has been reduced with improved standard of care, you really need thousands, and thousands, and thousands of patients to see those outcomes.
AMIT K. GHOSH: So this question is for Dr. Ganesh. Dr. Ganesh, you're leading the long COVID clinic here. Thank you for doing it. What is the take on patients who have received some kind of therapy, whether it's monoclonal or whether they are hospitalized with all the supports that you have, got the remdesivir, dexa, and others, with the possibility of developing into a post COVID long hauler syndrome?
Versus, if I have mild to moderate symptom, I stay home. I keep myself safe. I don't take any of these medications. My O2 sats is fine. What is my chance of getting a post COVID long hauler syndrome? And do these medications make any difference, or they are separate issues?
RAVINDRA GANESH: So it's a fantastic question and one that we're trying to figure out the answer to. Thinking about it from a scientific perspective, we have data that says that people even with mild symptoms do wind up developing this post COVID syndrome. And we have data that suggest that people who get hospitalized have a higher rate of developing post COVID syndrome with 60%, 70% of people in some reports having persistent symptoms at six weeks post.
Well, mechanistically, it would make sense that if we treated people early and decreased the amount of inflammation, we would hopefully prevent post COVID syndrome. Now, we don't have the data to back that yet. We're trying to study this. And the NIH is graciously trying to fund the research on post COVID syndrome. But the answers won't be available for a while.
AMIT K. GHOSH: The next question, either Lori can take, or Dr. Ganesh can take, miss Lori Arndt. This is about how we select patients to get the monoclonal antibody. Do they really need to see a physician? Or based on the criteria, when they get the test and they get the criteria, they can be referred for the monoclonal antibody infusion?
LORI ARNDT: Sure. I'm happy to take that question. So essentially, any patient who tests positive, they end up going into a report system here at Mayo Clinic. And again, those patients who test positive outside of Mayo are also eligible. And their primary care provider or whomever may have ordered their test or asked that they go get tested can submit an e-consult. And those patients are also then reviewed by our team for eligibility if they, in fact, do test positive.
And so once they test positive, we actually filter them out. And we decipher based on their medical record, their past medical history, medications that they're on their eligibility, which, again, goes back to the MASS score. And that's the weighted score for their comorbidities. And as long as they have one or more, those patients who are symptomatic who've tested positive within that 10 day window-- because there is the EUA that says we can only give this medication within 10 days-- are then eligible. And so our nurses then call them and give consent, explain to them what the risks are.
And they ask a variety of questions. And if the patient does have further questions, and they want to speak to their provider, the nurse will then get their provider involved or one of us from the MATRx team to answer any additional questions. And from there, the patient then gets scheduled that they consent. And usually, they are scheduled the same day or the next day for their infusion, which can take approximately an hour. We ask patients to come in and give us an hour, so that we can infuse and then monitor them for a period of time afterwards.
AMIT K. GHOSH: So this next question is for Richard. The spike protein a small RNA virus is quite a nightmare for all of us. And we realize teamwork is essential. Can you summarize your role of being at the charge of major Mayo health system? What is the pharmacy's role in monitoring what's going on regarding medication supply chain? What kind of questions do you get at a tertiary center?
RICHARD ARNDT: Yeah. Thank you for that question. Yeah. Global supply chain is always a hot topic in healthcare and especially for us in the pharmacy world. When the monoclonals initially came through the FDA EUA process, it was done by federal and then state allocation. Within our state, it was allocated based on regions that had the higher positivity rate.
So we were thankfully able to maintain the supply of monoclonals to meet the needs of our patients that, like Lori and Ravindra were discussing, in order to infuse those patients. Now, we did had some flux when the Regeneron product had to get relabeled. That supply was on hold for a bit. We could still get hold of the bamlanivimab. The etesevimab aspect was not yet FDA approved.
And when that came on later, the initial decision there was that it would be supplied as a combination, both bamlanivimab and etesevimab together. However, we soon realized that most sites may have an excess supply of the bamlanivimab, so they were able to ship the etesevimab on its own.
We've kept a really good eye on the variants that have popped up around the nation and also travel history of patients. And that's one of the screening questions that we do as well is when we we're consenting it is determining the patient's travel history. So if the patient is local and has not traveled, we have mostly the UK variant that is circulating in our area. So the bamlanivimab and etesevimab can be a good choice.
However, if we have any concerns around travel, we will do the casirivimab/imdevimab combination product. So we have therapy plan-- pan-- sorry-- therapy plans both within our electronic health record and the providers are able to select the nurses when they are placing those therapy plans which one of the [INAUDIBLE] or the casirivimab/imdevimab plan to utilize.
We also did a lot of work around those patients that had heart failure or chronic kidney disease with end stage renal disease in order to reduce the volume overload. We did the reduced volume products, so in order to go down from about 250 to 310 mLs down to about 70 mL for the infusion volume. And that's how we have settled so far. So we had a very good handle on being able to ensure that our supply chain, our electronic health record, and as well as meeting the exact specific needs of the patient are all encompassed into one action plan. And that's how pharmacy's role has been involved in working closely with this MATRx team.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Thank you. Thank you, Richard. That's been amazing, the coordination. Dr. Ganesh and Dr. Razonable, you've been actually the key stakeholders here at Mayo Clinic. What is your-- I know we've got maybe three minutes before I give it to Miss Pruitt. What have you learned the lessons of taking care of these patients? What kind of infrastructure or what kind of coordination information do you need to have to get something going in a pandemic?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Ravi?
RAVINDRA GANESH: I think we both learned the same lesson. It takes a team. It takes a huge team of committed people. And the reason that we've been successful is that everybody who came onto our team-- and it's about 80 people-- all wanted to be there, all wanted to help. And they all turned up every day to work to identify problems as they occurred and to help us troubleshoot going forward. So I think that the common shared value and goals really helped us moving forward.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Any last word, Dr. Ray?
RAYMUND R. RAZONABLE: Oh, no. That is correct. And also trying to appreciate the role of everybody. And everyone contributes to the whole objective of giving these therapies, potentially life saving therapies, to patients. And everybody has a role. And those have to be recognized and appreciated. And just like what Ravi had said, everybody who's a member of the team really wants to be there. And basically also giving feedback to everyone.
Another thing that we learned is we assess our outcomes like almost every week almost every day, just to see whether this is something that's working, so that you can pivot or change course in case there's some concerns. But feeding back to the team that the outcomes are good actually makes people want to come more and contribute more to the cost initiatives. And then sharing our experiences to you all as well as to our state and the federal government to see how we can help in having this program as a model or as an example of providing treatment to COVID-19 patients.
AMIT K. GHOSH: Thank you to our distinguished panel of speakers and from the Mayo School of CPD we thank you all. Over to Whitney for your closing comments.
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